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haridham (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Haribol, Great kirtan. Sri Krsna sankirtan yagya ki jai.
MRobe91000 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Thank you, nice bhajan.
Would danrivera and sonenkinder use private emails to discuss your issues ?. This is not a public forum. Perhaps you need to listen more and talk less. Thank you
gangamata (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
hey Hari Bol Prabhus! Please this is not a forum for debate! Please enjoy and chant the mahamantra with Bhakti Mataji and dont spoil the mood!
This chanting should be done without offence or motive-Hare Krishna
danrivera3 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Thay does not excuse you in your spiritual life- because others were nonsense I can be nonsense too. That wont do.So just chant Hare Krsna and be happy.
Sonenkinder1939 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
I do not blame devotees for what happened with Hansadutta, Hayagrive, Kirtanananda etc..I feel sorry for them because this is a situation ripe for abuse and the worst did happen. But even ISKCON attempts to reform have been slightly half hearted. They have not really repealed the GURU system, which Prabupad did not want, nor has their been good faith in the attempt to address the gurukula claims. They just threw out money and all are forbidden to talk about it.
I deel sorry for devotees.
danrivera3 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
And lastly- The philosophy of Veering off track was not Prabhpada's nor those of the Guadiya Vaisnavas- so you cant blame them or their line for those who disregard their instructions. And by deduction you can say that those who do not follow thier Guru's instructions are not his real students. And by deduction we can conclude that the Isckon of which you are speaking is not the Real Isckon, but rest soley in those who take thier Guru Maharaj's Instructions as their Life and Soul. Any questions?
danrivera3 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Has Catholisism- (sorry If i spelled that wrong)- made mistakes- i.e. - the inquisitions, has Islam made them with Holy Wars and Suicide bombers today? You can't blame a whole group for the sins of a few individuals. How about our Government? - NO they dont make mistakes-Your conclusion as you have presented it-Is Anarchy. If not Sir what is your alternative?
danrivera3 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
All have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God- is it or isnt it? So we all want to cast the first stone- since we are on the subject of our emotional garbage I have pain associated with women in my life- I feel I have been betrayed is it right or wrong that I blame all for women for all eternity for those experiences? Or should I learn and grow those experiences? Isckon has learned and will continue to learn from her mistakes. Has protestant Christianity had none i.e. The witch hunts
danrivera7 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Another point is you remind me of a joke that you remind me of a joke i heard- When asked by a Pastor why he never went to church the man replied- There are to many hypocrites in Church- to which the pastor replied- Dont worry- there is always room for one more. How long ago where you in the Temple?
danrivera7 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
The Garbage can is this world. The association of devotees is essential for spiritual advancement. Otherwise we fall into the same non=sense everyone else is engaged in. Sorry if you feel I adondoned you I will toil with you as long as like- Haribol |
