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mrmultidextrous (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
This civilization is collapsing because of overpopulation and a corrupt leadership and over reliance on fossil fuels, with no acknowledgment that (only now) they are limited resources.
"You will pay the price for your lack of vision." - Palpatine in Star Wars : A New Hope
randallsellis (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
A most excellent representation of where we are at this moment in time.
ngonea (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Thank you! you are so correct
"AGENDA 21" is a good place to check for all you ppl buying into the peak oil myth and the over population lie. I guess this is how they put the German ppl to serve Hilter's agenda. They will swallow the lies, let history repeat iself, and then justify it.
JoopShoop2 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
You mentioned that those with appropriate values deserve to survive possibly. Sounds like Nazi Germany. Let God decide who will survive. Oops, you do not believe in a creator God. This world is dying, God is going to let it just about destroy itself. Then he is coming back to judge us. Wether you believe it or not. Big Corporations, Greedy people, all those who pretend to be something they are not, and the prince of this world (Lucifer) cause evil (ALL).
jbryant13 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
"Civilizations" collapse because in their pride they forget God and think themselves as gods. God is the creator of life and when mankind thinks they can control life be it the "choice" to abort a child in the womb or manipulation of creation for evil (ie Monsanto) the problems have the same root.
When man worships creation (the environuts) over the creator - that is a false god. God will not be mocked. This guy is probably largely correct in his assumptions - albeit for the wrong reasons.
jbryant13 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Personally I think "peak oil" is a crock (as is man made global warming).
That said - there is MOST DEFINITELY a financial collapse coming - in fact we are in the process right now.
It is caused by the international bankers attempt to control the worlds resources through manipulation to establish the New World Order (UN World Government). Their goal is to micro-chip everyone and control all financial transactions. Their main goal is population reduction through food (i.e. Monsanto).
greggerritt (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Vote McKinney/Clemente 08 Green Party. Heinenberg's thoughts are exactly what motivates us, and has motivated us in the US since 1984. Stop voting for war, close down the military industrial complex which underlies the conversion of forest into wasteland. Get more community gardens. Vote Green in 08 greg gerritt
djgbroughton07 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
I am concerned with comments of arming yourself and getting ready for the worst scenario.
Unfortunately human kind has got to a point where technology, peakoil, global warming is upon us,and we must do something about it globally not locally. The theory of the grass roots approach will take to long to right the wrongs of past generations.I do belive technology and the coming Singularity will be our only hope for humans to live in harmony with each other
PlanetThoughts (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Good presentation. My own take is that the world may scramble to get the last drops of oil from shale, coal-to-oil, and the Arctic, but in the near future oil availability goes down rather quickly and the cost of everything jumps up. Amory Lovins is fine, but I feel he does not confront where things are headed - and where they already are for many in Asia and Africa. Choking on one's own air in Beijing tells you where they are and are headed, for example. The time to act is now, ASAP.
5starrater1 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
when I first worked this out I got so scared I could barely do my regular job properly. A few weeks later, I had aquainted myself with all the local garden centres, bought seeds, dug up a part of my garden, bought a greenhouse, and planted. Thanks for the inspiration. x |
